-Turkish Prawn

Liberals are more than likely going to get exactly what they’ve been wanting in November.
I don’t think so at all.
Obama is black. And those minority Democrats tend to be a lot more conservative than other Democrats. Think muslims, hispanics (Catholics), and remember that an awful lot of blacks are baptists.

I know a fellow, a polsci prof, who has been studying conservative rhetoric over the past 50 yrs. A devoted Democrat, but he’s a great source of information on those older conservatives before my time. He’s read that stuff.
Anyway, he called Obama as a conservative a long time ago. Almost got banned from Kos for saying so.

No, the liberals are in for some heartbreak should Obama win. For all you might see on the ‘net, most Democrats are conservatives.
Think southern Illinois. They reliably vote Republican for the national elections, and even more reliably vote Democrat for state and local elections.
But they’re voting for a certain type of Democrat. Once some Dem comes along wanting to turn West Frankfort into West Hollywood, they will stampede like nobody’s business.

Another clue: Obama rejecting campaign funds from the traditionally Democratic groups, like NOW.
He’s not beholden to them. They didn’t put him in power.
I expect him to remind them of that.

But in all fairness, with the Democrats insistence on focusing on social issues, the ball is in the Republicans court.
The Republicans really need to get over the lionization of Reagan.
I have a lot of respect for Ford for refusing to be on the same ticket with him, and for calling Reagan a radical.

I certainly go and back and forth myself on how I think an Obama presidency will fare. Liberals are more than likely going to get exactly what they’ve been wanting in November. Conservatives will have to endure a lot of gloating. It’s going to hurt a bit, but I firmly agree with PT that the GOP strength has always been that we are very good at ‘rebranding’ and learning from our mistakes. A second term for Obama is not a guarantee.

I don’t think so.
I think it’s mostly that the Republicans have proven to be so adept at re-inventing themselves over the years.
And I’m not so sure that Obama is distant enough from the far left of the Democratic Party for America.

I can explain to you the Democratic plan for America in two words:
Fruitcake Central.
People understand that. The people of Cape Girardeau know that West Hollywood is there if they want to live in West Hollywood, but they prefer to live in Cape Girardeau. They don’t want Cape Girardeau to be like West Hollywood.
They’re not out to stop West Hollywood from being West Hollywood, but the Democrats can’t accept Cape Girardeau as being Cape Girardeau. They want it re-shapen into West Hollywood.

I work on a union job site (Bechtel), and there are 2700 men on the day shift (and I say ‘men’ because a job does not “person” up…). I was standing in front of a group of men the other day, most of them (self included) with “Building Trades for Obama” stickers on their hard hats.
I said, “The way I call it, the Democratic Party has betrayed the working man.”
I got a lot of agreement, and not one dissenter.

The focus on the West Hollywood social agenda will doom Democrats soon enough.
Were they to stick to an economic agenda, they would do well. But that’s not where the money that’s driving the Democratic Party is at.

Bottom Line:
The Democrats are set to falter as soon as they win.

Again, I’m not cheering for either side but the truth of the matter is that throughout this administration, they have pretty much gotten to run it their way and it’s not turning out so well. It reminds me of Czar Nicholas II’s big error in taking direct command of the army. When things went to hell, it was he who bore the blame and the consequences.

The effect here is much the same. The Democrats have been a bunch of gutless wonders who have apparently had their backbones confiscated by security at the airport. I have no love for them, but because they have been such lapdogs to this administration (at least for the first 6 years), they will be less easily blamed for the misfortunes of our country. They will come out on top, if not looking heroic, at least not covered in scorn.

The argument that always gets my eyre is the, “It’s not our fault, it’s the previous guy’s” one. The blame that’s been leveled by the Republicans at those who warmed various seats of power prior to what ever calamity is befalling us at the moment is just such a lame cop-out. How’s this for an idea? FIX IT NOW! The blame-passing is just epic and all it does is make me want to slap them unconscious. It’s an excuse for not doing a good job. It’s an excuse for pandering to lobbyists. It’s an excuse for not wanting to be the one to risk ending a political career by doing something that they actually know is right and believe in.

That is why I think the Republican party will smart from this election for a very, very long time.

-Turkish Prawn