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		<title>By: Burrowowl</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/07/30/unfair-criticsm-of-mccains-energy-policy/#comment-483</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the expansion of available oil fields, the companies requesting access to ANWR and the outer continental shelf are current sitting on &lt;a href=&quot;http://wid.ap.org/oilgas/oilgas.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;millions of acres of unused leases&lt;/a&gt;, and thousands of unused drilling permits. If the core cause of oil price increases is tightness of supply, that is not addressed by opening up additional territory to not be drilled; the oil companies have chosen not to produce more. Opening up these untapped reserved of petroleum is a red herring. 

It is easy to tell angry consumers that are being gouged that we should &quot;drill more, drill now, drill here&quot; to win political points, but if Exxon-Mobil stands to earn record profits by sitting on its hands, that&#039;s precisely what they&#039;ll do. They&#039;re a for-profit corporation, it&#039;s what they &lt;strong&gt;should&lt;/strong&gt; do in the interest of their shareholders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the expansion of available oil fields, the companies requesting access to ANWR and the outer continental shelf are current sitting on <a href="http://wid.ap.org/oilgas/oilgas.html" rel="nofollow">millions of acres of unused leases</a>, and thousands of unused drilling permits. If the core cause of oil price increases is tightness of supply, that is not addressed by opening up additional territory to not be drilled; the oil companies have chosen not to produce more. Opening up these untapped reserved of petroleum is a red herring. </p>
<p>It is easy to tell angry consumers that are being gouged that we should &#8220;drill more, drill now, drill here&#8221; to win political points, but if Exxon-Mobil stands to earn record profits by sitting on its hands, that&#8217;s precisely what they&#8217;ll do. They&#8217;re a for-profit corporation, it&#8217;s what they <strong>should</strong> do in the interest of their shareholders.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Conservative</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/07/30/unfair-criticsm-of-mccains-energy-policy/#comment-473</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I won&#039;t pretend I&#039;m very knowledgeable about biomass plants. Speaking of those types of facilities in general, it seems everyone likes the idea so long as it&#039;s not in their backyard. I love the idea of nuclear, but I&#039;d certainly always have a dgree of fear if one was in my community. Even with wind turbines, which I think look pretty cool, there was opposition in places like Martha&#039;s Vineyard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t pretend I&#8217;m very knowledgeable about biomass plants. Speaking of those types of facilities in general, it seems everyone likes the idea so long as it&#8217;s not in their backyard. I love the idea of nuclear, but I&#8217;d certainly always have a dgree of fear if one was in my community. Even with wind turbines, which I think look pretty cool, there was opposition in places like Martha&#8217;s Vineyard.</p>
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		<title>By: ladybughugs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#039;m wrestling with this:
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/morris/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1217306241235280.xml&amp;coll=1

Any thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m wrestling with this:<br />
<a href="http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/morris/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1217306241235280.xml&#038;coll=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/morris/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1217306241235280.xml&#038;coll=1</a></p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: didionsdaddy</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/07/30/unfair-criticsm-of-mccains-energy-policy/#comment-470</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The fact that Ames ignores is that any and all new solutions to our looming energy crisis are going to be long term projects and require billions in monetary investment.&lt;/i&gt;

To speak of oil, domestic or otherwise, as part of a long-term solution to the energy crisis makes no sense. Whether or not we drill (more) in the U.S., the world will be out of recoverable oil soon -- likely in Didion&#039;s lifetime. (Though there is much debate on the timing.) Even if there was plenty of oil available, drilling it and burning it is not advisable; i.e., consider what we are doing to the planet. Those billions of dollars of investment you allude to need to go toward researching and building the infrastructure to support and provide alternative energy: A.S.A.P. And I am talking about solar and wind power. (I happen to disagree with Obama&#039;s heavy emphasis on the expansion of biofuels.)

Besides, with oil demand growing rapidly in the developing world, especially in China and India, any small increase in domestic production will have a negligible impact on worldwide supply and, therefore, price. Oil is a commodity. It doesn&#039;t matter who drills it.

Incidentally, Canada and Mexico account for 34% of crude oil imports to the U.S. so far in 2008. (The three Middle Eastern countries among the top 15 oil exporters to the U.S. only account for 26% of crude-oil imports.) Canada&#039;s and Mexico&#039;s contributions to all petroleum imports to the U.S. are even higher. I think it is worthwhile to consider who our suppliers are when discussing our dependence on foreign oil. Specifically, the focus on the Middle East is somewhat disingenuous in this context.

Here&#039;s a link to DOE stats on imports:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

And here are a few articles from several news sources discussing McCain&#039;s June 17 speech announcing his energy plan and his support for overturning the moratorium:

&lt;i&gt;The Guardian&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/19/energy.uselections2008

&lt;i&gt;The Washington Post&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602731.html

&lt;i&gt;Newsweek&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.newsweek.com/id/142343

(Note the rationalization problems McCain is going to run into considering how generously W supported the ban on offshore drilling to protect Florida&#039;s coast.)

And here is an article and an excerpt from a recent &lt;i&gt;WSJ&lt;/i&gt; article (July 28):

&lt;i&gt;The Republican presidential candidate did not mention that the most promising spots for quick offshore production are off the coast of California, where state and local officials oppose the drilling. McCain wants to lift the federal ban and leave the decision to the states.&lt;/i&gt;

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/28/mccain-offshore-drilling-is-something-we-have-to-do/

Sounds pretty opportunistic and &quot;feel good&quot; to me.

By the way, no infrastructure is needed for hybrid cars. Go to a Toyota dealership, buy a Prius. That&#039;s it. Infrastructure is needed if hydrogen-fuel cells are going to be viable, and here is where an expansion of solar and wind energy (to produce the hydrogen) can very much come into play.

Oh, and if you want to know what a Republican administration can do towards expanding hybrid technology, check out the paltry $30 million the Bush Administration earmarked for same:

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/feds-scrape-tog.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The fact that Ames ignores is that any and all new solutions to our looming energy crisis are going to be long term projects and require billions in monetary investment.</i></p>
<p>To speak of oil, domestic or otherwise, as part of a long-term solution to the energy crisis makes no sense. Whether or not we drill (more) in the U.S., the world will be out of recoverable oil soon &#8212; likely in Didion&#8217;s lifetime. (Though there is much debate on the timing.) Even if there was plenty of oil available, drilling it and burning it is not advisable; i.e., consider what we are doing to the planet. Those billions of dollars of investment you allude to need to go toward researching and building the infrastructure to support and provide alternative energy: A.S.A.P. And I am talking about solar and wind power. (I happen to disagree with Obama&#8217;s heavy emphasis on the expansion of biofuels.)</p>
<p>Besides, with oil demand growing rapidly in the developing world, especially in China and India, any small increase in domestic production will have a negligible impact on worldwide supply and, therefore, price. Oil is a commodity. It doesn&#8217;t matter who drills it.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Canada and Mexico account for 34% of crude oil imports to the U.S. so far in 2008. (The three Middle Eastern countries among the top 15 oil exporters to the U.S. only account for 26% of crude-oil imports.) Canada&#8217;s and Mexico&#8217;s contributions to all petroleum imports to the U.S. are even higher. I think it is worthwhile to consider who our suppliers are when discussing our dependence on foreign oil. Specifically, the focus on the Middle East is somewhat disingenuous in this context.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to DOE stats on imports:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html</a></p>
<p>And here are a few articles from several news sources discussing McCain&#8217;s June 17 speech announcing his energy plan and his support for overturning the moratorium:</p>
<p><i>The Guardian</i><br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/19/energy.uselections2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/19/energy.uselections2008</a></p>
<p><i>The Washington Post</i><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602731.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602731.html</a></p>
<p><i>Newsweek</i><br />
<a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/142343" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/142343</a></p>
<p>(Note the rationalization problems McCain is going to run into considering how generously W supported the ban on offshore drilling to protect Florida&#8217;s coast.)</p>
<p>And here is an article and an excerpt from a recent <i>WSJ</i> article (July 28):</p>
<p><i>The Republican presidential candidate did not mention that the most promising spots for quick offshore production are off the coast of California, where state and local officials oppose the drilling. McCain wants to lift the federal ban and leave the decision to the states.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/28/mccain-offshore-drilling-is-something-we-have-to-do/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/28/mccain-offshore-drilling-is-something-we-have-to-do/</a></p>
<p>Sounds pretty opportunistic and &#8220;feel good&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>By the way, no infrastructure is needed for hybrid cars. Go to a Toyota dealership, buy a Prius. That&#8217;s it. Infrastructure is needed if hydrogen-fuel cells are going to be viable, and here is where an expansion of solar and wind energy (to produce the hydrogen) can very much come into play.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you want to know what a Republican administration can do towards expanding hybrid technology, check out the paltry $30 million the Bush Administration earmarked for same:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/feds-scrape-tog.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/feds-scrape-tog.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Conservative</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree the atack on Obama was pretty dumb (though to be fair, libs have been blaiming every problem in America on one man for the last 8 years). 

I don&#039;t see the disconnect between his stated policy and his actual policy. Please elaborate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the atack on Obama was pretty dumb (though to be fair, libs have been blaiming every problem in America on one man for the last 8 years). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the disconnect between his stated policy and his actual policy. Please elaborate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ames</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is as cogent and well-argued a discussion of the different energy policies as I&#039;ve yet seen.  But my problem isn&#039;t with McCain&#039;s actual policy: it&#039;s what he&#039;s saying his actual policy is, and how he&#039;s selling it to the people, that&#039;s disingenuous.

P.S. - I like our post-back-and-forth replies :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is as cogent and well-argued a discussion of the different energy policies as I&#8217;ve yet seen.  But my problem isn&#8217;t with McCain&#8217;s actual policy: it&#8217;s what he&#8217;s saying his actual policy is, and how he&#8217;s selling it to the people, that&#8217;s disingenuous.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; I like our post-back-and-forth replies <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dummidumbwit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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What would John McCain think about these?]]></description>
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<p>What would John McCain think about these?</p>
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