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	<title>Comments on: Gay Marriage in California</title>
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		<title>By: Progressive Traditionalist</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Progressive Traditionalist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, Progressive Conservative.
I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a good idea based on other evidence; in particular:
1) Were all of the issues stated to be addressed then corrected, then they should be addressed by less intrusive means first.  This measure proposes the most intrusive means first.
2) Even were the most intrusive means necessary to address the issues stated, then this measure addresses those issues for only a small sub-class, leaving the majority that face those same issues without remedy.

Foolishness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Progressive Conservative.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s a good idea based on other evidence; in particular:<br />
1) Were all of the issues stated to be addressed then corrected, then they should be addressed by less intrusive means first.  This measure proposes the most intrusive means first.<br />
2) Even were the most intrusive means necessary to address the issues stated, then this measure addresses those issues for only a small sub-class, leaving the majority that face those same issues without remedy.</p>
<p>Foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Oddly Enough, California is Still Standing: Responsibly Addressing Gay Marriage &#171; Submitted to a Candid World</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oddly Enough, California is Still Standing: Responsibly Addressing Gay Marriage &#171; Submitted to a Candid World]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] fence. Writing there, Progressive Conservative accepts the course California has taken, while wondering with trepidation what the future holds for the children of gay couples. Truly, I suppose, we don&#8217;t know. I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fence. Writing there, Progressive Conservative accepts the course California has taken, while wondering with trepidation what the future holds for the children of gay couples. Truly, I suppose, we don&#8217;t know. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Conservative</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-211</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are allowing a major change in a social institution that has been in place for a very long time and the outcome is far from predictable. I call that an experiment, only there are several competing hypothesis.

P.S.  If you have a blog of your own, please attach your URL so we can add you to our blogroll. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are allowing a major change in a social institution that has been in place for a very long time and the outcome is far from predictable. I call that an experiment, only there are several competing hypothesis.</p>
<p>P.S.  If you have a blog of your own, please attach your URL so we can add you to our blogroll.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-210</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I disagree with the term &quot;experiment&quot; to describe this. To me, experiment evokes this definition:

&quot;an operation or procedure carried out under controlled conditions in order to discover an unknown effect or law, to test or establish a hypothesis, or to illustrate a known law&quot; m-w.com

Gays have been around forever, coupling and raising kids. There are just more out gays, and more of them raising kids. This isn&#039;t a controlled experiment, it is just people living there lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I disagree with the term &#8220;experiment&#8221; to describe this. To me, experiment evokes this definition:</p>
<p>&#8220;an operation or procedure carried out under controlled conditions in order to discover an unknown effect or law, to test or establish a hypothesis, or to illustrate a known law&#8221; m-w.com</p>
<p>Gays have been around forever, coupling and raising kids. There are just more out gays, and more of them raising kids. This isn&#8217;t a controlled experiment, it is just people living there lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Conservative</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Progressive Conservative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There  have only been a handful of studies that have tracked children into adulthood. A lot of work has yet to be done and if these marriages in CA stand, I&#039;m sure a lot of social science profressions will be gathering data to try and explain the long-term effects.

I am not suggesting these children will be harmed, but what I am saying is that we need to be aware that this IS a social experiment and we need to carefully monitor the results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There  have only been a handful of studies that have tracked children into adulthood. A lot of work has yet to be done and if these marriages in CA stand, I&#8217;m sure a lot of social science profressions will be gathering data to try and explain the long-term effects.</p>
<p>I am not suggesting these children will be harmed, but what I am saying is that we need to be aware that this IS a social experiment and we need to carefully monitor the results.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
		<link>http://progressconservative.com/2008/06/18/gay-marriage-in-california/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Same sex couples have been raising children for a very, very long time. There has been lots of research on it, and the kids appear to be healthy, happy, and no worse the wear.

http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html

Kids seem to have an advantage with two parents. Two parent families have twice the care takers and twice the bread winners. There are many great single parents, but I think it is a much bigger challenge. 

What I think is crazy is the people that try to block same sex couples from adopting. The evidence is clear that kids would do a lot better with two moms or two dads, then no parents and in foster care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same sex couples have been raising children for a very, very long time. There has been lots of research on it, and the kids appear to be healthy, happy, and no worse the wear.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html</a></p>
<p>Kids seem to have an advantage with two parents. Two parent families have twice the care takers and twice the bread winners. There are many great single parents, but I think it is a much bigger challenge. </p>
<p>What I think is crazy is the people that try to block same sex couples from adopting. The evidence is clear that kids would do a lot better with two moms or two dads, then no parents and in foster care.</p>
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